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"The best phone you can buy right now"
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-08-07 20:29:35

The Verge does this thing where they list what they consider to be the best laptop or phone or whatever, and they state the Samsung Galaxy S8 is the best phone for most people.

Samsung's Galaxy S8/S8 Plus is the best phone for most people. It's available across all four US carriers and unlocked. It has the best display on any smartphone right now, a head-turning, premium design, a top-of-the-line camera, reliable battery life, and fast performance. Thanks to Samsung's popularity and the support of all four carriers, the S8 also has plenty of accessories, from cases to battery packs to wireless chargers, available to it.

You can definitely make a case for the S8 being the best phone for most people, but personally, I still consider the iPhone to be the best, safest choice for most non-geeky people. Personally, I prefer Android, and for my personal use, iOS on the iPhone is an exercise in frustration - but iOS provides a more consistent, all-around phone experience that remains fairly static from phone to phone, it's a little simpler to grasp than Android, and Apple has an excellent support system in many countries that's far better than Samsung's hands-off let-the-reseller-handle-it approach.

I wonder - what do any of you consider the best phone for most people? If one of your non-geeky family members seeks your advice, which phone do you suggest they get?

The Verge named the Surface Laptop the best laptop, which I find a baffling choice. It's new and unproven, so we have no idea how it'll hold up over the next few years. An odd choice for sure.

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RE[8]: Nokia
By CATs on 2017-08-10 06:37:29
> I'm assuming this also means no email and no sms. See my other comment on those.
No e-mail, but yes SMS. And that's not a problem, since attacker would need to hack my first-factor authentication before second-factor SMS would be of any use to him.
Also, would you be able to explain how exactly the attacker would pwn my phone if it's completely static, no new apps ever get installed, I don't browse the internet from it, and even all the background data is always disabled? I would say my chances of being pwned are many, many times smaller than any other person's who uses mega-secure-up-to-date phone to it's full extent.

> But otherwise that's great, You're using an expensive smart phone like a late 90s Nokia. Good Jorb. I'll recommend a very cheap insecure phone for you. Everyone else, I'll recommend a more secure phone.
I use my smartphone however I want and that's my business. If you don't approve of it, that's your problem. If you're jealous I have enough money to use expensive smartphone as a dumbphone, that's again your problem.

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RE[6]: best for "most"??
By CATs on 2017-08-10 06:46:35
> What phone lasts 6 years today?
Funny you would say that, since just this morning I pulled Nokia 1100 out of my drawer, put SIM card in it and started using it as my phone. At least for now, until I need e-taxi services or GPS navigation on a regular basis again and slip SIM card back into my smartphone. Thus, my current phone is effectively 14 years old and is fully functional, in perfect working condition, with just minor scratches on the back and very slightly worn keypad.
The smartphone at the moment is relegated to being a portable music player.
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RE: Surface best laptop
By CATs on 2017-08-10 06:52:30
> I found their naming of the surface as the best laptop quite interesting. They did so at the top of the article, then listed the score, then other laptops and their scores. An HP scored higher than the Surface, yet they still named the Surface as best. Kind of makes me question whether they are reviews, or paid for adverts.
Exactly what I was saying. And Thom linking such ads here makes me feel not very good about OSNews, either.
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verge's choice
By l3v1 on 2017-08-10 07:24:12
> The Verge named the Surface Laptop the best laptop, which I find a baffling choice

Me too. If we're talking Surface, I think the HP Spectre x2 is a better Surface than the Surface :) For some family members I recently recommended the spectre x360 and the xps13, and they're quite happy with them. Otherwise, for my needs, the new X1 Carbon is the only thing I would buy right now.

Anyway, this whole thing only shows that there are actually some pretty good devices to choose from right now, which is really nice.
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RE[4]: iPhone
By woegjiub on 2017-08-10 07:53:38
Were you trying to use it like windows?

Because I've only experienced that kind of pain for programs from outside of the repos.
In short, if it's not in the repos, and there's no PPA, don't install it. Simple.
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RE[2]: Comment by Sidux
By woegjiub on 2017-08-10 08:01:14
Bizarre. I get 3GB a month from Optus for $30, and absolutely never use it all. Maybe it's because of the $100 unlimited 100 megabit NBN (TPG and Internode both offer this as long as you're in an area with FTTP, which happens to be almost all of Southern Tasmania)

Australia is pretty damned cheap for fast data.
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RE[5]: iPhone
By CATs on 2017-08-10 08:54:27
> Were you trying to use it like windows?
No. I was trying to use it like computer.

> Because I've only experienced that kind of pain for programs from outside of the repos.
In short, if it's not in the repos, and there's no PPA, don't install it. Simple.

OK, great, I'll just go and use Linux without the software I need. That will be swell. All my problems will disappear, since my computer will be off all the time. Why didn't I think of this ingenious solution before!

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RE[6]: iPhone
By woegjiub on 2017-08-10 10:43:52
What was the software?

If the developer can't be bothered submitting it to the repos, it's probably not maintained and shouldn't be used.

Besides Thai, who uses desktop apps in 2017? You have a browser.
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RE[7]: iPhone
By CATs on 2017-08-10 11:10:53
> What was the software?
Don't remember particular examples from desktop side, but it was like that with most server-side stuff.

> Besides Thai, who uses desktop apps in 2017? You have a browser.
Was this some kind of sarcasm? Because I didn't get it.
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RE[8]: iPhone
By Alfman on 2017-08-10 12:10:52
CATs,

> Don't remember particular examples from desktop side, but it was like that with most server-side stuff.

That's ironic, many devs prefer linux distros for their platform of choice on servers. It's often easier to install and use software on linux than on windows in part because most server software is written for unix first and windows second, if at all. It's not an absolute rule of course, and the .net framework has some perks.

I'm very familiar with dependency hell on both linux and windows, so I'm not going to dismiss that especially if you go outside the repos, but I honestly don't think that the majority of users would ever have to unless they wanted to run bleeding edge code that hasn't been vetted by the repos yet (and I wouldn't recommend that to someone without experience).

Also it depends on the distro, Debian/Ubuntu have almost everything you can imagine and then some. Redhat/Cent are more selective.


> Besides Thai, who uses desktop apps in 2017? You have a browser.

Was this some kind of sarcasm? Because I didn't get it.


Yeah, sounds like woegjiub's needs are more basic than ours, but it doesn't matter, different people different needs :)
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