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Apple's A11 Bionic SoC is kind of insane
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-09-13 16:40:52

With the iPhone X revealed, we really have to start talking about its processor and SoC - the A11 Bionic. It's a six-core chip with two high-power cores, four low-power cores, and this year, for the first time, includes an Apple-designed custom GPU. It also has what Apple calls a Neural Engine, designed to speed up tasks such as face recognition.

Apple already had a sizeable performance lead over competing chips from Qualcomm (what Android phones use) in single-core performance, and the A11 blasts past those in multicore performance, as well. Moreover, the A11 also performs better than quite a number of recent desktop Intel chips from the Core i5 and i7 range, which is a big deal.

For quite a few people it's really hard to grasp just how powerful these chips are - and to a certain extent, it feels like much of that power is wasted in an iPhone, which is mostly doing relatively mundane tasks anyway. Now that Apple is also buildings its own GPUs, it's not a stretch to imagine a number of mobile GPU makers feeling a bit... Uneasy.

At some point, these Apple Ax chips will find their way to something more sizable than phones and tablets.

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RE: Smartphone could be your only PC
By Kochise on 2017-09-14 15:50:36
Ubuntu did it did it already.

https://liliputing.com/2015/05/ub...
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But what does this numbers tell us?
By C5523 on 2017-09-14 16:24:27
Does this mean if Photoshop ever release a ARM version it would be the same performance level against i3 model?

Or this high performance is related to how apps are compiled and run in the iOS world? (almost like cheating).

They could perfectly optimize it for iOS instruction set and that's it. The benchmark shows incredible results but it would be unusable outside iOS/iPhone SDK/Compiler/whatever.
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Comment by leos
By leos on 2017-09-14 16:40:47
> For quite a few people it's really hard to grasp just how powerful these chips are - and to a certain extent, it feels like much of that power is wasted in an iPhone, which is mostly doing relatively mundane tasks anyway.

AR is mundane? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...
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Probably too late for most people to see this ...
By Sabon on 2017-09-14 19:50:07
Apple is building their own CPUs and GPUs ---specifically--- to leave everyone else in the dust.

Now that they are designing their own CPUs and GPUs, they can now go down whatever path they want and unless Google starts doin the same, Android phones are going to start dropping further and further back and very quickly.

Why? Companies that design CPU and GPU chips only want to make just enough improvements and not a bit more that will keep the vast majority of their customers coming back to them over and over again.

Compare this to Apple. They don't want small gains in performance and reduced power consumption. They want to push the envelope hard to walk/run away from the competition using the combination of hardware and software to create an increasingly large performance gap.

The bigger this gap is, the better it is.

Eventually I expect them to make every part of their devices, even cameras and and sound and everything you can think of.

The very LAST thing they would ever want, is to license out their chips to other companies allowing them to duplicate their products.

Edited 2017-09-14 19:51 UTC
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RE[8]: Expect ARM Powered Macbook
By woegjiub on 2017-09-14 22:32:45
Service Workers.



There's no reason those exact same apps won't work without the internet as long as you've loaded the page even once.
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RE[8]: Expect ARM Powered Macbook
By tylerdurden on 2017-09-14 22:39:24
Jesus, the more things change... the more they stay the same.

I remember reading similar posts where people used to film cameras could not envision the feasibility of digital imaging and processing of photos on the field.

When the auto was introduced, people used to horses were wondering about what happens when you run out of hay.
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RE[5]: Performance
By shyouko on 2017-09-15 07:50:22
Those improvement mostly came from Apple and community's improvement of the gcc PowerPC port, so people so said.
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RE[9]: Expect ARM Powered Macbook
By Troels on 2017-09-15 09:30:22
Nice examples, though i don't see how the apply here.

Both your examples were obvious, of course they would eventually improve and be better than the old alternatives, anything thinking otherwise had to little knowledge to judge it. Just like driverless transportation is obviously the future now.

Thinking the web approach to all software is anywhere near as obvious an improvement is much less clear, just like so many other things that were previously hyped to take over the world, but never did.
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RE[3]: Expect ARM Powered Macbook
By zima on 2017-09-15 12:46:50
> If there's no Adobe on ARM, people will learn GIMP or Krita.
You're joking, right?
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RE[2]: Smartphone could be your only PC
By Kancept on 2017-09-15 16:24:00
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot...

The Atrix did it before that, and the Palm Folio as well (not a phone, though).
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