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Microsoft finally admits Windows Phone is dead
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-10-09 19:44:19

In a series of tweets, Microsoft's Joe Belfiore has revealed that the software giant is no longer developing new features or hardware for Windows 10 Mobile. While Windows Phone fans had hoped Microsoft would update the platform with new features, it's now clear the operating system has been placed into servicing mode, with just bug fixes and security updates for existing users.

I was a first adopter of Windows Phone 7 - so much so I imported a device from the US during launch week. It was an amazing operating system to use, and I loved it. Soon, however, it became clear Microsoft was unable to attract developers to the platform, and even those applications that did make it weren't particularly good - not even the ones written by Microsoft itself, which were often simple HTML-based apps, which simply weren't good advocates for the platform. As a Windows Phone user, you were always scraping the very bottom of the barrel when it came to applications.

To make matters worse, the move to Windows NT with Windows Phone 8 was a disaster. Existing phones weren't updated, and instead, only got an entirely pointless Windows Phone 7.8 update. This didn't do anything to enamour users to the platform, which makes it all the more weird when Microsoft did it again when Windows Phone 10 was released. In any event, Windows Phone 8 did mature over its short lifetime, gaining many features other platforms had had for ages. Sadly, the application situation never improved, and to this day, the Windows Store is a ghost town.

It really sucks that Windows Phone became a victim of blatant mismanagement and market forces, because I still love the operating system and its unique UI. One day, I'll have to sit down and write the counterpart to my Palm retrospective, covering the entire PocketPC/Windows Mobile/Windows Phone era.

It's been a wild ride.

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RE: Nelson where are you?
By Thom_Holwerda on 2017-10-10 09:33:03
> I am wondering if Nelson ( http://www.osnews.com/user/Nelso... ) has read this. Few years ago he was promoting heavily here Windows phones and how bright future they have based on quarter to quarter sales.

Man, the number of times that guy/girl attacked me for stating WP was a failure and dying...

I can take it, but a "damn, sorry, you (AND EVERYONE ELSE) was right" would be nice ;).
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Comment by kurkosdr
By kurkosdr on 2017-10-10 09:44:55
Let's be honest, if you were a Microsoft phone customer and had your HTC HD2 made insta-obsolete in a matter of months after purchase (no OS upgrade and no ability to run apps of the new OS), and then had the same thing happen with your WP7 phone, would you touch anything from that company again? If you were a retailer, would you stock a device that could be made insta-obsolete in a matter of months?

At one point, the only customers the OS had were true believers and people who accidentally bought the OS while "buying a Nokia"

Edited 2017-10-10 09:46 UTC
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It is actually a nicely calm ride
By avgalen on 2017-10-10 11:27:33
"The reports of my dead are greatly exaggerated" ;)

> There are a total of 80 fixes and five improvements/features currently in testing with the feature2 builds.

The Lumia 1520 that I, my wife, and my mother are all using are now over 3.5 year old and are still doing everything we want them to do except
* ABN-Amro Banking app stopped at the beginning of this month. The mobile website has more functionality but is much slower and cumbersome to use
* Duo Lingo doesn't offer Japanese (iOS only, Android maybe someday)

In the beginning it was a wild ride with smaller and larger OS-Updates all the way to 8.1 "Denim" that greatly improved the functionality (swiping keyboard, notifications, slowmotion camera, miracast, VPN) while keeping the phone crazy fast and easy to use.
Then came the migration to 10 that dropped support for many phones and introduced a bit of slowness and buggyness but gave me better builtin apps and the promise of UWP development for both phone and desktop. 10 got improved over time and my phone is now just as fast and stable as in the 8.1 timeframe with better apps included, but no new hardware, completely shriveled up marketshare and we all know what that does to app-development.

So yes, Windows phone is dead, but on our devices it is working better than ever and it still receives monthly bugfixes. We will probably continue to use them for another 2 years.

(I paid 500 for my wifes and 2x150 for the other 2 later, so 800 Euro is going to give us about 12.5 years of hardware. There is no way I am ever going to be on the 800-Euro-every-2-years-band wagon)
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RE: Nelson where are you?
By DefineDecision on 2017-10-10 12:25:47
There's this Gzregorz (I can't spell Polish names, I'm sorry) that's sole social media activity was posting in support of Microsoft's mobile strategy, maybe some other stuff. He'd do it on Reddit and the comments of many more sites.

I wonder if he's a shill or *that* much of a fanboy.
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RE: It is actually a nicely calm ride
By darknexus on 2017-10-10 12:39:25
Uh oh, did we find Nelson? :P
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RE[2]: It is actually a nicely calm ride
By avgalen on 2017-10-10 15:09:41
Did you find Nelson? No, we are different people. I wonder why you would confuse us. As far as I remember Nelson is a bit more "out there" which is why you started with "uh oh", I guess.

Is there anything in my post that you find fault with?
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RE[6]: You think that is sad?
By Morgan on 2017-10-10 15:15:24
> SoC doesn't mean the RAM is on the chip.

Exactly, I think judgen is thinking of PoP, or "package on package", like the BCM2835 used in the Raspberry Pi. Later versions of the chip used on the Pi were still SoC (system on a chip) but were no longer PoP, with separate RAM chips on the underside of the board. This allowed for better cooling of the CPU itself, necessary with the Pi 3's BCM2837.
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RE[2]: Nelson where are you?
By Morgan on 2017-10-10 15:20:11
Nelson hasn't been around in a while, but I recall the last time he posted, he was being critical of Microsoft and almost apologetic for his prior behavior.

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RE[2]: Embrace
By Morgan on 2017-10-10 15:24:38
I find that fascinating, given how many non-Chrome-based browsers exist for Android. I would completely understand it if an iOS version of Edge used Safari, Apple requires it after all. But Google is fairly open about allowing other browser engines to exist on their platform.
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RE[2]: You think that is sad?
By No it isnt on 2017-10-10 15:58:08
They didn't give Meego much of a chance, but it was a more mature OS than WP7, and probably WP8 as well. I just resurrected my N9, and notice that others still haven't caught up with the keyboard. The always on display could be made more useful than the one my Samsung has, and consumed less power.

As for Windows Phone, it only ever got praise for its smooth scrolling and the novelty launcher.
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