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AMD's Ryzen CPU with Vega graphics threatens Kaby Lake
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-10-26 16:32:39

AMD's Ryzen and Threadripper processors re-established AMD's chips as competitive with Intel's. While the AMD parts gave up a bit of performance to their Intel rivals, especially in single-threaded tasks - a result of the combination of slightly lower clock speeds and slightly inferior instructions-per-cycle (IPC) - they shine in multithreaded tasks, with AMD often offering many more cores and threads than Intel for the same or less money.

In the mainstream desktop space, Intel's Coffee Lake chips have reasserted that company's dominance; Skylake-X does the same in the high-end desktop space, too, albeit at a high price.

But things are looking like they're going to be different in the mobile space. That's because the two new chips, the Ryzen 7 2700U and Ryzen 5 2500U, show signs of being faster in both processor and graphics tasks than Intel's latest comparable chips.

These chips also bode well for supposed upcoming AMD APUs, which I'm looking forward to as a way to build a relatively cheap but still powerful secondary machine.

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Nice!
By darknexus on 2017-10-26 19:19:37
Competition is a wonderful thing. Do we know, with absolute certainty, whether AMD built an equivalent to Intel's IME into their chips or not? If they did not, I would guess that security-conscious users and organizations will be eyeing these chips for their next machines.
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So pleased...
By PJBonoVox on 2017-10-26 19:20:26
... That AMD are really back in the game. It reminds me of buying my first Athlon CPU back in the late 90s (ish!?) and the price wars that followed. Really felt like the barrier to entry had been smashed down.

Also reminds me of the Cyrix 6x86 CPUs came out. They were a teeny bit flakey but that price tag... wow!
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RE: Nice!
By zima on 2017-10-26 19:50:04
From the post of Andre elsewhere on OSNews ( http://www.osnews.com/permalink?... )
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#am... ...so, AMD also has it.
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Faster is very likely, how about energy efficient?
By avgalen on 2017-10-26 20:18:48
Intel has hardly improved performance the last 5 years on mobile chips. So it would make sense that this would be easy for AMD to catch up and surpass Intel in 1 swoop.
It also seems logical that the GPU part from AMD would be superior to what Intel has to offer. (Radeon vs Iris backgrounds)
What Intel has done well the last few years is reducing power usage. This has historically been a weak point for AMD. Has AMD caught up here as well? Because honestly my laptop CPU and GPU have been fast enough for almost all my daily work for many years now but I would like me some longer unplugged usage
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RE: Faster is very likely, how about energy efficient?
By tecepeipe on 2017-10-27 00:51:51
"AMD claims that 15W Ryzen 7 2700U APU outperforms 91W Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake desktop CPU"
Nowadays temperature and power are not an issue for AMD anymore. I mean... it's the same TDP as their counterpart, not a weakness anymore.
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Comment by sbike
By sbike on 2017-10-27 07:41:44
Here's hoping someone makes a NUC (tiny silent x86 with intel mobile parts) with the new AMD mobile chip. The better GPU would be quite useful.
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RE[2]: Faster is very likely, how about energy efficient?
By avgalen on 2017-10-27 07:56:20
We will have to wait and see the test results. I am looking forward to having more choice and improvements again.

Compared to its previous mobile processors, AMD says that these new chips pack up to three time the CPU performance, 2.3 times the GPU performance, and consume up to 58 percent less power.
Source: https://www.windowscentral.com/am...
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Thunderbolt 3!
By Lobotomik on 2017-10-27 08:05:55
A laptop based on this chip sounds extremely enticing.
When will they have Thunderbolt 3?

I want all the checkboxes checked when I throw my old laptop away -- high resolution, decent graphics acceleration, good touch screen, Thunderbolt3, USB-C charging, good performance, AFFORDABLE. Ultrathin constorsionist is secondary. Any suggestions?
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RE: Thunderbolt 3!
By Brendan on 2017-10-27 10:11:13
Hi,

> A laptop based on this chip sounds extremely enticing.
When will they have Thunderbolt 3?

I want all the checkboxes checked when I throw my old laptop away -- high resolution, decent graphics acceleration, good touch screen, Thunderbolt3, USB-C charging, good performance, AFFORDABLE. Ultrathin constorsionist is secondary. Any suggestions?


Given that Thunderbolt 3 has security that can only be described as "overwhelming incompetence", is proprietary and undocumented by Intel to prevent fair competition, and serves no useful purpose that isn't better covered by standard and secure alternatives (USB 3.0, DisplayPort, 40 Gigabit ethernet); hopefully AMD will never support Thunderbolt 3.

- Brendan
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RE: Comment by sbike
By Kochise on 2017-10-27 13:34:43
Owning one with a E-350, it's a shame I have currently no money/use with such Ryzen based NUC :/
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