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Ubuntu 17.10: return of the GNOME
By special contributor Moochman on 2017-12-02 00:06:57

Ars Technica once again provides us with an in-depth Ubuntu review:

If you've been following the Linux world at all, you know this has been an entire year for spring cleaning. Early in 2017, Canonical stopped work on its homegrown Unity desktop, Mir display server, and its larger vision of 'convergence' - a unified interface for Ubuntu for phones, tablets, and desktops.

And now almost exactly six years after Ubuntu first switched from GNOME 2 to the Unity desktop, that has been dropped, too. The distro is back to GNOME, and Canonical recently released Ubuntu 17.10, a major update with some significant changes coming to the popular Ubuntu Linux operating system.

In light of the GNOME switch, this release seems like more of a homecoming than an entirely new voyage. But that said, Ubuntu 17.10 simultaneously feels very much like the start of a new voyage for Ubuntu.

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RE[6]: No difference
By Kochise on 2017-12-03 05:10:26
Closed/proprietary source have an 'excuse' of not being easily maintainable. Bug tracked open source haven no excuse, if not laziness.
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RE[7]: No difference
By kwan_e on 2017-12-03 07:10:13
> Closed/proprietary source have an 'excuse' of not being easily maintainable. Bug tracked open source haven no excuse, if not laziness.

That's just a ridiculous double standard. Closed/proprietary have LESS of an excuse - because you pay MONEY for it. You should get your money's worth. You probably don't contribute a dime to the open source projects you use.

Now, if the argument was levelled at Qt only, then I might agree, since people pay for proprietary licence. But that wasn't the argument, was it?
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RE[4]: No difference
By testadura on 2017-12-03 10:07:54
You are stating everything as facts. As if god himself descended to earth to share his objective truth.

No, I am not special. And neither are you.

I am not saying Linux Desktop is perfect. I am just saying that Gnome works very well for me. And yes, I am doing something with my computer; I earn my money as a Java developer. And the Gnome desktop helps me in this regard. Who are you to tell me it doesn't suffice?
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RE[5]: No difference
By testadura on 2017-12-03 10:22:25
Exactly my experience. Running the same IDE and more or less the same stack with docker etc.

Too bad you got a downvote; it seems the bias of some of the loud screamers counts more that the actual experience of users running the software as intended.
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RE: This is needed
By just-me on 2017-12-03 11:45:19
That's interesting- because it's the opposite of my experience.
I do almost zero tweaking after a fresh install. I enable wobbly windows because I like it.
Oh - and I check the local menu checkbox (can't stand global menu). That's it. A couple minutes of tweaking.

Video and music work out-of-the box - both on an underpowered Netbook and my gaming laptop.

To me Ubuntu (Unity) provides a very nice and clean environment. With that I can surf, play videos, listen to music, play games, do programming, etc...

What exactly is Mint "fixing" that is so broken in (Unity) Ubuntu?

(I'm not a fan of Gnome Shell - recently tried it for a second time - still don't like it).
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RE[4]: No difference
By just-me on 2017-12-03 11:47:09
I did notice some lag on Gnome Shell (when I tried it a few months ago) that I don't have with Unity.
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RE: No difference
By just-me on 2017-12-03 11:51:01
I disagree.
Users can't *name* the difference.

But regular users often go into crisis mode if a button is not in the same place as it used to be.
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RE[9]: No difference
By kwan_e on 2017-12-03 12:48:09
> So, what is the excuse now for FOSS ? Because it is free and based on volunteering, does that permit laziness in fixing tracked critical bugs ? What have they to sell that is newer and render the previous version obsolete and useless to maintain ?

You've already loaded your question by presupposing it's laziness. Quit JAQing off.
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RE[10]: No difference
By Kochise on 2017-12-03 13:42:49
Then tell me a valid reason for a tracked reproducible bug to remain open for more than 8 years and a half ?
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RE[4]: No difference
By BluenoseJake on 2017-12-03 14:51:20
xfce is dead?
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