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ReactOS 0.4.7 released
By Thom Holwerda on 2017-12-06 20:29:26

ReactOS 0.4.7 has been released, and it contains a ton of fixes, improvements, and new features. Judging by the screenshots, ReactOS 0.4.7 can run Opera, Firefox, and Mozilla all at once, which is good news for those among us who want to use ReactOS on a more daily basis. There's also a new application manager which, as the name implies, makes it easier to install and uninstall applications, similar to how package managers on Linux work. On a lower level, ReactOS can now deal with Ext2, Ext3, Ext4, BtrFS, ReiserFS, FFS, and NFS partitions.

There's more, so head on over to the announcement page.

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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
By bert64 on 2017-12-07 16:07:33
The goal is to make a clone of windows, if it's crashing regularly then it seems they're doing a good job!
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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
By gedmurphy on 2017-12-07 17:18:25
Any chance you could open a ticket and unload the crash dump to the reactos jira page?
https://jira.reactos.org
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RE: Still bluescreens quickly
By ebasconp on 2017-12-07 17:21:02
> I suppose there has been progress under the hood, but as an end user, I don't get to see it, when the system is still unstable as hell.

In the home page of their site they say it is still in Alpha, so you should not expect to have it working perfectly.

Probably, they fixed a lot of problems and crashes, but that does not mean the software reached some high stability level yet.

Anyway, nobody can deny it is a beautiful piece of engineering right there :)
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RE[2]: Still bluescreens quickly
By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2017-12-07 22:25:26
Yeah, I'm not awarding beauty awards to crashing operating systems. Regardless of how log its been in development or how much not crashing they're doing compared to the previous release.

Beauty awards:
BeOS, Haiku, Amiga, SkyOS, *BSD, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS, ios, Planet 9, OS/2, Risc OS, GeOS, Minux, WebOS, Palm OS, symbian

Those are beautiful pieces of engineering rendered as operating systems.

React doesn't make that cut in my book.
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RE[2]: Still bluescreens quickly
By yahya on 2017-12-07 23:29:33
> > I suppose there has been progress under the hood, but as an end user, I don't get to see it, when the system is still unstable as hell.

In the home page of their site they say it is still in Alpha, so you should not expect to have it working perfectly.



I know, I know, as I have been following ReactOS development since version 0.0.1. I just feel that after, depending how you calculate, 15 or 20 years, it would be nice if it would emerge from alpha and become a bit more stable. And no I don't expect it to work perfectly, but still I don't expect it to crash on the first occasion either. When Linux was of the same age ReactOS is today, it was far from perfect, but it was incredibly stable and mature.

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Probably, they fixed a lot of problems and crashes, but that does not mean the software reached some high stability level yet.


If it crashes all the time, that's the precise opposite of "stable" I would say.
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RE[3]: Still bluescreens quickly
By ebasconp on 2017-12-08 01:27:18
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BeOS, Haiku, Amiga, SkyOS, *BSD, Gnu/Linux, Mac OS, ios, Planet 9, OS/2, Risc OS, GeOS, Minux, WebOS, Palm OS, symbian

Those are beautiful pieces of engineering rendered as operating systems.

React doesn't make that cut in my book.


Though you are right with all the OSes you described, you are not taking into account several aspects that IMO are very important and make ReactOS special:

1. The number of developers and time invested on several of those commercial operating systems is not comparable to the number of developers that work in their spare time for ReactOS.

2. Almost all operating systems you described, or are created from scratch based on their own principles, rules, designs, etc. or are free implementations of some specs (POSIX); though I am not telling that creating an OS is easy, ReactOS has the extra complexity layer of mimicking (at binary level in several layers) one commercial and already existing closed-source OS. The reverse engineering stuff done there is amazing!

3. IMO Windows itself is by far more complex than other OSes, it provides several APIs (Win32 API, COM, DCOM, OLE, DDE, DDK, DirectX, etc.) at OS level, and ReactOS implements several of them at some extent.
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RE[3]: Still bluescreens quickly
By ebasconp on 2017-12-08 01:30:20
> When Linux was of the same age ReactOS is today, it was far from perfect, but it was incredibly stable and mature.

Not same scenario.

ReactOS mimicks Windows at all levels, that includes mimicking all kernel and drivers stuff, registry, Win32 API, DLL loading, etc.

Creating a clone of a very complex closed-source operating system is not a piece of cake and IMO is harder than creating your own stuff.
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RE[2]: install to ext2 support
By dark2 on 2017-12-08 03:46:38
ReactOS uses a custom FAT driver called FASTFAT. The hacks to make it work mean there is probably still a lot of work or some near unsolvable bugs present that stop it from running on other filesystems.
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RE[2]: Stability, Stability, Stability!
By Pro-Competition on 2017-12-08 03:47:37
These instructions worked for me, in previous versions. (I haven't had the time to try this one yet.)

It's a little odd, but it does work.
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RE[4]: Still bluescreens quickly
By Bill Shooter of Bul on 2017-12-08 06:39:00
Its my book, my criteria for good engineering includes things like not crashing when trying to do trivial things. I don't care that they are all volunteers, I'm not giving out participation medals. I know its a non trivial task, but geeze oh man, React isn't pretty.
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