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"Fuchsia is not Linux"
By special contributor garyd on 2018-04-12 22:36:54

Google has posted the beginnings of a documentation project around their microkernel based OS, Fuchsia. From the readme:

This document is a collection of articles describing the Fuchsia operating system, organized around particular subsystems. Sections will be populated over time.

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RE[3]: Love the homage to GNU
By anevilyak on 2018-04-13 14:28:12
Last I checked, Android uses Harmony, not OpenJDK. At least looking through the AOSP repo shows no signs of the latter.
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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
By jessesmith on 2018-04-13 14:31:02
A highly modified version of MINIX is run on many Intel CPUs. That's not the same as MINIX itself being run by a user. Calling MINIX mainstream is quite a stretch.
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RE[3]: Love the homage to GNU
By Vistaus on 2018-04-13 15:26:25
Mainstream among companies (or company, in this case but Intel is a gigantic one so it counts for lots of market shre!) is still mainstream. Just like how Linux is mainstream on servers.

Edited 2018-04-13 15:27 UTC
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RE[4]: Love the homage to GNU
By Ford Prefect on 2018-04-13 16:00:15
It must have been a long time ago you checked, as Google switched to OpenJDK already for Nougat.

It is really not too hard to research that fact either, either by googling "Android OpenJDK" or by visiting https://source.android.com/setup/...

> For the Java Development Kit (JDK), note the master branch of Android in AOSP comes with a prebuilt version of OpenJDK

Edited 2018-04-13 16:01 UTC
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RE[2]: Love the homage to GNU
By abraxas on 2018-04-13 17:54:27
> Absolutely agree with you that it is fascinating watching this grow. I really hope it gets some traction, as we could really do with seeing a microkernel-based system in the mainstream.

Always seemed a shame to me that MS seems to have dropped there research with Singularity and Midori - which combined Microkernel design with managed code to give an architecture that could be really secure without compromising performance.


Probably because a pure microkernel with managed code WOULD compromise performance. It's basically impossible not to. Any claim to the contrary is purely marketing spin.
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RE[3]: Love the homage to GNU
By No it isnt on 2018-04-13 18:22:10
Calling consumer technology mainstream is just as much of a stretch. Most technology is designed to do some sort of work, out of sight of the enduser. Software can have success without the consumer.
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RE[5]: Love the homage to GNU
By galvanash on 2018-04-13 18:46:17
To be fair to anevilyak, this is a fairly recent change. They used Harmony up until Nougat, at which point they switched because:

1. Harmony is now retired and is no longer updated.

2. It ensures Nougat and future versions of Android are safe from the threat of additional Oracle lawsuits.

Imo they never avoided OpenJDK because of the GPL... They simply didn't see any need for it. It didn't exist when Android was originally built, and they had no desire to be Java compatible from a TCK perspective so they just rolled with what they had. Nothing changed until the lawsuit - that is what prompted them to switch, not an avoidance of the GPL.

In fact the GPL is basically why they switched to it, as now they can actually claim compliance with a license specifically issued under the entity (Oracle) they are trying to gain protection from.
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RE[6]: Love the homage to GNU
By Ford Prefect on 2018-04-13 19:53:08
I agree with everything you say.

Nougat came out 18 months ago and the switch was announced Jan 2016. So I think it is a bit embarrassing to go so far to 'dispute' a simply stated fact this way without checking. Same with the people who vote on comments hereā€¦

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RE[4]: Love the homage to GNU
By zima on 2018-04-13 21:13:29
Are Contiki and MINIX really in the same category / competing with each other? The former runs on Commodore 64 / really low-power microcontrollers...
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RE[7]: Love the homage to GNU
By galvanash on 2018-04-13 21:37:40
Sorry if I came across wrong (not sure?)

I wasn't trying to correct you or anything, everything you said was accurate. I was just trying to add a why to it, since it is confusing as hell and not everyone knows the sordid history of this mess.

Also realize my idea of "recent" is very relative. I just meant that for most of its life Android did use Harmony. They have been using OpenJDK for a few years now though, so yeah, not really that recent ;)

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