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ReactOS 0.4.8 released
By Thom Holwerda on 2018-04-16 01:51:54

ReactOS 0.4.8 has been released, and its biggest new feature is experimental support for NT6+ applications.

With software specifically leaving NT5 behind, ReactOS is expanding its target to support NT6+ (Vista, Windows 8, Windows 10) software. Colin, Giannis and Mark are creating the needed logic in NTDLL and LDR for this purpose. Giannis has finished the side-by-side support and the implicit activation context, Colin has changed Kernel32 to accept software made for NT6+, and Mark keeps working on the shim compatibility layer. Although in a really greenish and experimental state, the new additions in 0.4.8 should start helping several software pieces created for Vista and upwards to start working in ReactOS. Microsoft coined the term backwards compatibility, ReactOS the forward compatibility one.

There's tons of other improvements, as well.

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A much needed step
By cb88 on 2018-04-16 02:27:20
Unfortunately their rate of progress has been pretty slow, to the point the most applications no longer support XP or 2003.

But having an OS that is effectively much like NT4-5 in familiarity while being able to run NT6 applications will be nice.

I think the next big things they'll need to implement are SMP and better support for graphics drivers. The memory subsystem still isn't quite as robust as real XP either (XP can page file all day long and doesn't leak memory like a sieve like ReactOS during downloads etc...).

I was intending to test out some commercial software I use (Wonderware Indusoft) and did get it downloaded but it took a few tries finally I figured out I could close out firefox and it would pause my download every 300MB or so.... till I hit 1.1GB also 7zip would crash halfway through extracting because of OOM so I just extracted half the files at a time. In the end it didn't work as the securekey dongle driver wouldn't install.

Edited 2018-04-16 02:29 UTC
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RE: A much needed step
By Darkmage on 2018-04-16 03:11:40
Eh, as long as it can run apps wine can't in a virtual machine ReactOS will remain highly useful for a lot of people. Now if they can get an RDP server/client, and Samba 4/DHCP/DNS server ports completed this thing could be a useful lightweight DC/Terminal server/jump box.

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RE[2]: A much needed step
By Kochise on 2018-04-16 05:02:51
How much cost a Windows XP license from a refurbished PC ? 0, nada, nothing. How much for Windows 7 or even 10 from Lizengo ? I leave it to you finding by yourself, "you'll be amazed by what you'll discover".
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RE[4]: A much needed step
By Kochise on 2018-04-16 10:14:31
Well, sort of, I originally wanted to address OP issue. A legal license of the OS version targeted (NT5-NT6+) costs "nothing" nowadays, so there's no point at dealing with an inferior "ersatz". Just get a valid license and you're done.
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RE[5]: A much needed step
By Alfman on 2018-04-16 13:32:04
Kochise,

> Well, sort of, I originally wanted to address OP issue. A legal license of the OS version targeted (NT5-NT6+) costs "nothing" nowadays, so there's no point at dealing with an inferior "ersatz". Just get a valid license and you're done.

You make a valid point. An obvious rebuttal would be that windows xp isn't supported any longer and isn't being patched. However it's awkward to use such a rebuttal when speaking of reactos because even though it's actively being supported, it clearly doesn't have the level of support that windows xp did.

IMHO reactos probably could have been a lot more important and viable if it weren't always 10+ years behind. To be sure, this isn't intended as a criticism of their abilities, but we should recognize that they operate with a minuscule sliver of the trillion dollars microsoft took in when it supported windows xp. The task of project management is far easier when you have lots of money, haha.
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RE[6]: A much needed step
By Kochise on 2018-04-16 14:36:36
Well, I bet not, because from what I've read coming from microsoft coders (internal or contractor) testimony, even with trillions injected, the coding process remains quite a mess, mostly because too much meetings and coding rules difference between entities. But I digress.

Yeah, for what I know about kernel development, ReactOS is an impressive achievement. I just want to remind people it hasn't reached gold yet. This is still a beta level project, so do not expect the same quality level of a mature and supported OS, and don't use it in prod.
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RE[7]: A much needed step
By Alfman on 2018-04-16 16:08:03
Kochise,

> Well, I bet not, because from what I've read coming from microsoft coders (internal or contractor) testimony, even with trillions injected, the coding process remains quite a mess, mostly because too much meetings and coding rules difference between entities. But I digress.

Yeah, I actually think small teams have to work harder and smarter to achieve their goals (what choice do they have?). But as many of us may have experienced, the lack of resources can drag a project down. I mostly work with small local companies, and this lack of resources is by far and away my biggest gripe. There are so many good ideas and things I'd love to do, but lack of resources is a constant barrier with my clients.

A large corp like ms will outspend small ones by ridiculous amounts. It is terribly inefficient, that much is clear. However the scales of economy and brand exposure are such that they can afford to be very inefficient and still remain just as viable as the smaller more efficient companies, if not more viable.

> Yeah, for what I know about kernel development, ReactOS is an impressive achievement. I just want to remind people it hasn't reached gold yet. This is still a beta level project, so do not expect the same quality level of a mature and supported OS, and don't use it in prod.

I have experimented with kernel development when I was younger, it's a topic that I enjoy a lot and could talk about for a long time (not that I get much opportunity to in my social circles). But I've come to accept that the world really doesn't need or want yet another kernel.

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RE[2]: A much needed step
By yahya on 2018-04-16 16:15:06
> Eh, as long as it can run apps wine can't in a virtual machine ReactOS will remain highly useful for a lot of people.

My experience is not that ReactOS can run software that Wine can't.

Also, are you not joking when you say reactos will "remain highly useful for a lot of people"? I have been following its development since 2003 or so, and until today, it is only good for playing with it for some minutes when a new release comes out, but I haven't made it to run on any real machine for many years now (When they began, there was no virtualbox so the only way of testing was on real hardware, which kind of worked back then, but all but failed in recent years. ROS is probably the most unstable OS I have ever seen, despite more than 20 years of development.

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RE[3]: A much needed step
By Lennie on 2018-04-16 17:38:19
As far as I know Wine and ReactOS work together (would be crazy not to)
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RE[3]: A much needed step
By bugjacobs on 2018-04-16 17:52:26
ReactOS and Wine is FOSS !
That means PURE. Not proprietary garbage like (unpatched) XP or Vista ..
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