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How smart TVs track more than what's on tonight
By Thom Holwerda on 2018-07-10 22:14:37

The growing concern over online data and user privacy has been focused on tech giants like Facebook and devices like smartphones. But people's data is also increasingly being vacuumed right out of their living rooms via their televisions, sometimes without their knowledge.

In recent years, data companies have harnessed new technology to immediately identify what people are watching on internet-connected TVs, then using that information to send targeted advertisements to other devices in their homes. Marketers, forever hungry to get their products in front of the people most likely to buy them, have eagerly embraced such practices. But the companies watching what people watch have also faced scrutiny from regulators and privacy advocates over how transparent they are being with users.

This is so deeply creepy.

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Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By kwan_e on 2018-07-11 00:20:27
At this point, you have to say people are complicit in the abuse of their own data.

Stop buying "smart" things, you lazy fucks.
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RE: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By emphyrio on 2018-07-11 01:26:51
> At this point, you have to say people are complicit in the abuse of their own data.

Stop buying "smart" things, you lazy f--ks.



Okey. Now, please point me to a non-"smart" tv, available in most electronics stores.

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RE[2]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By kwan_e on 2018-07-11 02:01:52
> Okey. Now, please point me to a non-"smart" tv, available in most electronics stores.

If people didn't buy them unthinkingly, they wouldn't be the majority option.
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RE[2]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By Drumhellar on 2018-07-11 04:25:36
Don't connect your TV to the internet, maybe?
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RE[3]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By Gargyle on 2018-07-11 05:31:13
You still say that like people had the option to buy an equivalent screen without all of the smart stuff added to it, but that is false.

It's just like saying people in the USA have a chance to use an internet provider that adherers to the principles of net neutrality. The only reason why they have been the victim of net neutrality violation is because they choose en masse to be with those nasty providers. Not true, of course, and idem ditto for the case of Smart TVs.
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RE[4]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By kwan_e on 2018-07-11 06:22:09
> You still say that like people had the option to buy an equivalent screen without all of the smart stuff added to it, but that is false.

Are you seriously trying to argue all the non-smart stock was disposed of overnight and suddenly all stores only stocked smart stuff?
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offline smart TV
By wigry on 2018-07-11 07:00:42
I've owned smart TV for a couple of years now and completely refuse to hook it up to a network. Once connected, the datastream would be quite consifderable. It has been told so also in the privacy statement that I read before starting to use the TV. So no thank you!
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RE[2]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By shotsman on 2018-07-11 07:02:30
You don't HAVE to connect the TV up to the Internet you know...
Just using it from a STB (Set Top Box) makes it a dumb TV.
My setup is totally unable to 'Phone Home' about what I'm watching. I get my TV from Satellite and don't pay any provider for the service. This is totally legal here as the service is called 'FreeSat'. My STB is a Humax FreeSat PVR which uses HDMI to send signals to the TV. No device is connected to the Internet either by wired or WiFi.

If you really want to watch GoT or anything on Netflix then part of the deal is that the advertisers get to know about it. If you are ok with that then fine. I'm not. I record almost all the TV I watch and skip the ads.
You can avoid the spying/slurping if you really want to. The question is, 'do you?'.
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RE[5]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By emphyrio on 2018-07-11 07:34:39
>

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Are you seriously trying to argue all the non-smart stock was disposed of overnight and suddenly all stores only stocked smart stuff?


That's very close to what happened; one moment we bought a nice CRT. Seven years later, when we wanted to replace it, no dumb tv in sight at the shops.

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RE[6]: Captured partisans digging their own mass graves
By kwan_e on 2018-07-11 08:00:51
> >

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Are you seriously trying to argue all the non-smart stock was disposed of overnight and suddenly all stores only stocked smart stuff?


That's very close to what happened; one moment we bought a nice CRT. Seven years later, when we wanted to replace it, no dumb tv in sight at the shops.


Seven years vs overnight is not what I would call "very close to what happened" :)
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