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Apple's secret repair kill switch hasn't been activated - yet
By Thom Holwerda on 2018-10-09 00:38:54

Even though the Mac line has grown less repairable over time, fixers have still managed to develop techniques for performing essential screen and battery repairs - until now. According to an internal Apple service document, any Mac with an Apple T2 chip now requires the proprietary 'Apple Service Toolkit 2 (AST 2) System Configuration Suite' (whew, that's a mouthful!) to complete certain repairs. This issue has received extensive coverage, but we wanted to perform some lab testing before we took our shot. Let's break down what all this means first.

This is inevitable - Macs have becoming ever more closed and less repairable for years now. This sucks - but at the same time, nobody is forcing you to buy a Mac. There are countless premium Windows and Linux laptops out there that are just as good, and even many non-premium Windows laptops are more than good enough replacements.

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True that...
By The Lone OSer on 2018-10-09 00:46:11
Firstly, I got given a Mac desktop and when I started exploring it I wondered firstly what all the hype was about and secondly where all Mac software lived... I understand that Mac has some software that musicians love and video makers love etc.. But I doubt that these same pieces of software are Mac only. Then I came to the conclusion that Linux actually had far more software applications available to it then Mac does, so the only reason one would own a Mac is if they were to dev for a Mac or iPhone... I could not justify it otherwise.
Secondly, I agree with Thoms statement "and even many non-premium Windows laptops are more than good enough replacements." ... This is so true... I purchased a cheap 17" HP laptop with an AMD APU in it and use it for architectural design and programming and it is PERFECT.
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No one is forcing you...
By emphyrio on 2018-10-09 01:06:49
Indeed, no one is forcing you to buy apple products.

However, many other manufacturers will follow suit; making it that much more difficult to find a properly repairable product.

For example, we already see this in the degradation of many of lenovo products' serviceability in favour of fancy designs.

Apart from that, not many people consider ease of repair at the time of purchase - rightfully assuming that a premium product can be properly repaired with as little fuzz as possible.

Edited 2018-10-09 01:08 UTC
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RE: No one is forcing you...
By The Lone OSer on 2018-10-09 01:30:57
I worked 20 years in IT repair... Sadly unless you have an Apple product it just isn't economic to repair now days anyway... unless you're willing to pay your staff peanuts.
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Can you imagine
By sagum on 2018-10-09 01:47:47
Can you imagine what our options for our computers would be now if apple had won the desktop war.

And I feel sorry for any one trying to collect these machines like retro hardware now.
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RE: Can you imagine
By laffer1 on 2018-10-09 02:26:17
We'd all be using beige desktops like it's 1995?

It's fair to say apple sucks but they have pushed PC vendors and particularly Microsoft to step up their game.
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RE[2]: Can you imagine
By The1stImmortal on 2018-10-09 04:08:45
> We'd all be using beige desktops like it's 1995?
I don't see the problem here...
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RE: True that...
By gsyoungblood on 2018-10-09 05:06:00
I'll give you my reasons. Now these reasons make sense for me, in my environment and my workflow.

I do photography and video work, and I happen to like Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. I also like iMovie for simple videos, and Adobe Media Encoder for doing optimized encoding. The Adobe tools are Mac and Windows, and iMovie is Mac only. Given that, and that I do not like Windows, again, I'm stuck on Mac - for now.

My primary job is software systems engineering, Unix based, and working on a variety of servers and other tools. The underlying Unix toolchain is helpful for me to do what I do.

I'm often at my desk, but I do enjoy being a digital nomad. Battery life is extremely important to me. My 13" MBP (2015) can go for 6 to 10 hours+ (depending on how much video work I do) on battery power. Reliably. And that's still the case after 3 years of use. I've yet to have a Windows machine make it to 6 hours (I don't have newer machines so can't compare "apples to apples"), let alone have their battery last more than a year with any meaningful capacity. And Linux battery life is typically on par or worse than Windows in my experience.

Finally, I don't have to tweak or fix things after basic updates. I used to run Linux on the desktop, but every 3 to 6 months I could count on losing anywhere from 4 to 20 hours dealing with "change" from OS updates, to repair something that didn't quite work right (if at all) after the update was finished. In 2005/6 I'd had enough (been using Linux since 93), straw/camal, and switched to Solaris 10 on my desktop, kept servers on Linux, after an OS update (Ubuntu I think?) broke a couple of machines. It was nice to have a stable system. Sure it wasn't as fast, but it just worked and I didn't lose time needing to tweak things frequently.

That's why I'm still on Mac. That said, I don't see myself on Mac 2 years from now. I've already begun looking into the best options for me to migrate to. Still not a fan of Windows, but the Linux environment gives me the ability to have the unix side I need, while still keeping Office and Adobe tools quickly accessible. So, who knows. Then again, I've found some amazing looking tools (Darktable) that might remove the Adobe requirement and thereby remove the Windows or Mac duopoly of choice. Time will tell.

Edited 2018-10-09 05:12 UTC
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RE[3]: Can you imagine
By r_a_trip on 2018-10-09 05:47:05
Some people prefer form over function...
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RE[4]: Can you imagine
By The1stImmortal on 2018-10-09 05:57:56
Enjoy your beautiful, expensive, irreparable paperweights then I suppose.
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Comment by The123king
By The123king on 2018-10-09 07:45:54
I bought a mac when i saw Windows 8 Developer Preview.

It was a 13 early 2011 "fat"book pro, with user replaceable RAM, real SATA HDD's, build in optial drive etc etc. It was an awesome laptop, but large and bulky.

Then i got a MBA, lovely laptop, very small and light, ultra portable, but nothing is really user replaceable.

This is what Apple should have stuck to. Large "Pro" machines, built like tanks and user expandable (and maybe a chunk of "Apple Tax" to put off general consumers) with smaller, more portable and unexpandable machines for joe public to buy.
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